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Pandora Sykes's avatar

If you are reading this on e-mail there are FOUR typos. If you are reading it in the Substack app (much better, highly recommend), then it should all be corrected

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Francesca  Hornak's avatar

So interesting, thank you! Reminds me of this brilliant/stressful piece in The New Yorker (don't be put off by covid in the headline).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/opinion/covid-pandemic-depressing-math.html

Made me slightly obsessed with calculating how many more times I might eg go to the V&A or see certain friends I only manage to see every 5 years....

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Pandora Sykes's avatar

Thank you so much for linking to that. Honestly I could have gone so much more into that aspect, as someone really obsessive about time and how I spend it — I often think of Adam Gopnik’s piece about ‘busywork’ and how it can be easier to jampack your days (certainly for a personality like mine) than to stay still and take stock!

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Francesca  Hornak's avatar

Oh yes! And his piece about his daughter's imaginary friend Charlie Ravioli who's always too busy to play with her...https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/09/30/bumping-into-mr-ravioli. Really enjoying the Bridget Podcast by the way!

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Pandora Sykes's avatar

And thank you! Chaos to make, lovely (I hope) to listen to

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Pandora Sykes's avatar

Yes! I often wonder, am I being too Ravioli?

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KATY LOFTUS's avatar

Great interview. Oliver Burkeman is just so SANE. Thank you both for spending your time on a good thing ;)

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Bec Evans's avatar

This is such a great interview - thank you for sharing the transcript of your conversation - packed with gems.

I believe you when you say Oliver Burkeman changed your life - because he changed mine. When he was writing his column, I sent him a fan email and along with his wonderful newsletter and books, I occasionally get to ask his advice. I am seeing him tomorrow for a catch up and will be taking my husband along to mitigate the risk of pledging my life as Oliver's disciple.

PS can't wait to hear who your other life-changing person is!

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Ruthie Ackerman's avatar

This was such an incredible conversation. I LOVED Meditation for Mortals!

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Nicola Donnelly's avatar

This is was a really good interview. Thanks for sharing here. I will look for more contributions by Oliver Burkeman.

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Saved by Grace's avatar

I'm reading Meditations for Mortals at the minute and very much enjoying it.

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KP Parker's avatar

Absolutely brilliant interview. Thank you so much for sharing

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Peak Introspection's avatar

Really enjoyed this. Has lit a bit of a fire under me tbh.

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Sarah's avatar

Wow, what an incredible introduction to Oliver Burkeman. I devoured this interview exchange and can’t wait to delve into his books. Thank you Pandora x

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Ellie Rickard's avatar

A wonderful interview, I've taken so much from it. Also, I'll read the above New Yorker articles. Thank you.

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Emily Barlow's avatar

Oh wow I feel so seen with that people pleasing comment. Brilliant interview!

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A.J.M. Roozen-Klein's avatar

I absolutely love Meditation for Mortals!

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Zayris Fantauzzi's avatar

Love this interview. It inspired me to explore his posts and purchase his books.

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Tanya Lidstone's avatar

Which book would you recommend or read first? Both sound fascinating and I am in desperate need of a mind shift. Thanks

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Pandora Sykes's avatar

Four Thousand Weeks (the foundation) before Meditations for Mortals (the practical guide that builds on the foundation)

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Tanya Lidstone's avatar

Thank you so much. X

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Melissa Thistle's avatar

Wonderful conversation and thank you for introducing me to Oliver Burkeman.

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